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every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get irritable. it's going to be hard when governor romney is going to try to get him with his little zingers, to not get annoyed at the lack of searsneriousness an lack of actual facts. so i think most of us at this point are expecting, romney can have a mediocre performance and i think he will get good spin the next day. >> steve, the romney campaign is up against another difficulty in the poll which is the public's actual expectation at this point. the "washington post" poll shows that among likely voters, 55% of them expect president obama to win the debate. 31% expect mitt romney to win the debate. and presumably that expectation will color the way those viewers watch that debate. >> yeah. it could. i mean, maybe this is the one risk maybe t
every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get irritable. it's going to be hard when governor romney is going to try to get him with his little zingers, to not get annoyed at the lack of searsneriousness an lack of actual facts. so i think most of us at this point are...
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about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks history may have been a lot different. >> that's incredible. you think about it now when presidential candidates drink with people in bars so they can prove they're the every man. all do beer and a shot from time to time. >> even hillary clinton enjoys shots. >> there's nothing wrong with that. 1968 richard nixon facing hugh hubert humphrey. mitt romney didn't want to appear on "snl." he was worried about it not seeming presidential. let's show nixon's moment. >> sock it to me? >> we know happened as a result. >> that was five seconds that could have chan
about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks...
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he just needs just that much to have him win the election. you can't change the narrative and you can't change the direction of your campaign and what people think of your campaign with one friendly interview on a rival network. it just doesn't happen that way. and also maybe what governor romney is trying to do is to try to sway some of those folks who might be thinking of going through the early voting process and more than half the country, folks who are voting right now to try to convince them that, hey, that guy we saw at the debate on wednesday isn't as bad as you thought and that 47% thing, he's apologized so let me vote for him. the only problem is there are 32 more days to go. as we sift through really the lies that he told during the debate and people get to see that, well, the mitt romney you saw on wednesday is not the mitt romney who has been campaigning all this time, i'm not sure how effective that apology to the 47% is going to be. >> right. michelle, another number mitt romney is not fond of talking about is 7.8%, the new une
he just needs just that much to have him win the election. you can't change the narrative and you can't change the direction of your campaign and what people think of your campaign with one friendly interview on a rival network. it just doesn't happen that way. and also maybe what governor romney is trying to do is to try to sway some of those folks who might be thinking of going through the early voting process and more than half the country, folks who are voting right now to try to convince...
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romney, well, presidential elections are decided by electoral votes. and in that puzzle, mitt's chances are starting to crumble like a poorly constructed game of genga. it's still a close race in virginia and florida, with the president up by two in the old dominion. it's ohio with the president opening up a lead of eight points in the buckeye state, where voting is under way. with ohio joining pennsylvania, are iowa and new hampshire turning increasingly blue, that puts the president at 265 electoral votes. mitt romney would have to run the table of every other swing state to get to victory. and clearly, romney's so-called supporters are now reaching for desperate measures. >> on the eve of the first presidential debate, a bombshell is about to be dropped on the white house because tonight you'll hear from barack obama like you've never heard from him before. >> oh, yes, that was the introduction last night before fox aired tape of a 2007 speech by then-candidate obama to a group of black ministers in which he criticized the response to hurricane katr
romney, well, presidential elections are decided by electoral votes. and in that puzzle, mitt's chances are starting to crumble like a poorly constructed game of genga. it's still a close race in virginia and florida, with the president up by two in the old dominion. it's ohio with the president opening up a lead of eight points in the buckeye state, where voting is under way. with ohio joining pennsylvania, are iowa and new hampshire turning increasingly blue, that puts the president at 265...
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that is the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term. that's what we need. [ cheers and applause ] now, my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got an extreme makeover, but the bottom line is his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. he think that is if we just spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts, that, yes, skew towards the wealthiest, if we get rid of more regulations on wall street, then our problems will be involved. jobs and prosperity will rain down from the sky, the deficits will magically disappear, we will live happily ever after. even though he's been proposing this plan for months now, he's had a little trouble explaining just how it would work without blowing a hole in the deficit or making middle class families pick up the tab. the other night he ruled out asking millionaires and billionaires to pay even a dime more in taxes. he said there's no way that he'd close the loophole that gives big oil companies billions each year in corporate welfare. ending tax breaks fo
that is the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term. that's what we need. [ cheers and applause ] now, my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got an extreme makeover, but the bottom line is his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. he think that is if we just spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts, that, yes, skew towards the wealthiest, if we get rid of more regulations on wall street, then our problems...
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landon tweeted one thing is for sure, one liners and zingers are not going to win this election. here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of times over the last 20 years, i knew it was going to be -- you mind if i take my coat off with your permission? thank you. all right. >> check out the buysep flex -- are we really going to show a bisep flex? we missed it. okay. close your eyes. okay. the vp's allure is the subject of a new piece in politico. politico senior washington, d.c. correspondent jonathan allen wrote it and joins me now. jonathan, we did miss the bicep shot, paul ryan has the px 90 thing going on. we've seen the example of joe
landon tweeted one thing is for sure, one liners and zingers are not going to win this election. here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there...
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we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a tumultuous rally mondale claimed the debate breathed new life into his campaign. >> today we have a brand new race. today everything is different. >> reporter: while not claiming a flood of overnight conversions, mondale's aides argue millions of voters finally are listening to mondale and rethinking their support for reagan. >> the seemingly unstoppable reagan bandwagon hit a bad rut last night and the president seemed to know it. asked who won the debate as he left kentucky, all he said was, i'm smiling. at a north carolina rally, mr. reagan brought up the debate
we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a...
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there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and george bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here again. this is when we learned what a great and masterful communicator bill clinton is. this is how he handled it. >> i honor your service in world war ii. i honor mr. perot's service in the uniform and the service of any m
there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and george bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here...
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there are more recently allegations relating to an electoral scheme in arizona to allegedly violate election laws by running an independent expenditure campaign on behalf of an attorney general candidate there. i should point out that there have been no charges filed against mr. sproul or any of his companies, but they were concerned enough so that when sproul got hired in just this past june, he acknowledges that he set up a separate company under this name, strategic allied consulting, so that it wouldn't trace back to the other names that he's operated under, lincoln strategy group is the main one, and so it was clear that they were concerned, both he and the rnc, and he says, sproul told me that he did this at the request of the rnc. so there was clearly concern on both parties' part that some of these past controversies would get some attention if it was known that he was conducting this very major nationwide battleground registration effort on behalf of the rnc. >> because the rnc spends something like $3 million, they were operating in seven swing states. how wide do you expect this i
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and i think that's the fork in the road in this election. whether it's a senate race in ohio or whether the presidential race nationally. >> senator, you to look in the camera and answer me directly. will barack obama and sherrod brown will ohio? >> yeah, i think we both will. so goes ohio, so goes the nation. and president obama is doing well here because he makes a distinction. are you for the middle class or are you for helping the 47% and hoping it trickles down. and the voters don't think that way. the voters ultimately dwont look at conservative/liberal, they look at who is on your side and it's pretty clear in the race for the senate and ohio, that's why so many people are coming up to sherrod brown.com and signing up to help us and it's pretty clear with the presidential race. p. >> no republican ever won without winning ohio. senator share read brown, thanks for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. thanks reverend al. >>> still ahead, save big bird. he's now working for food. he's on the unemployment line. so what is with governor rom
and i think that's the fork in the road in this election. whether it's a senate race in ohio or whether the presidential race nationally. >> senator, you to look in the camera and answer me directly. will barack obama and sherrod brown will ohio? >> yeah, i think we both will. so goes ohio, so goes the nation. and president obama is doing well here because he makes a distinction. are you for the middle class or are you for helping the 47% and hoping it trickles down. and the voters...
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if you want a better president elect a better congress. that is the real lesson of the last two years. >> certainly the questions will be many. the answers perhaps few. we'll see. coming up, the numbers game. electorally speaking not all roads lead to 270 but there are different routes to get there. some are super highways and others are more scenic. as chuck todd mapped out last week. >> florida still matters big. if the president wins it it's check mate. no path without florida. go for these scenarios, if he's going to crede ohio, and that's what's gone on the move of ohio where romney cannot seem to connect with white working-class voters, he's doing the bus trip, but the move of ohio that suddenly means he has to win florida and virginia. >> we will compare governor romney's narrow path with president obama's increasingly widening lane next on "now." [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're
if you want a better president elect a better congress. that is the real lesson of the last two years. >> certainly the questions will be many. the answers perhaps few. we'll see. coming up, the numbers game. electorally speaking not all roads lead to 270 but there are different routes to get there. some are super highways and others are more scenic. as chuck todd mapped out last week. >> florida still matters big. if the president wins it it's check mate. no path without florida....
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they want hip, if he gets elected, to do what they say. and on top of that, he didn't mention his name, but paul ryan would be his vice president. paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney actually shifting positions or emphasizing different elements of his positions? because when i watched and what i saw was a different approach to governance on display and a very different set of policies he was underscoring but not actually going off any of the policies he had espoused up to that night. >> i think you're right. what's been different was tone more than substance, style more than substance. i also think
they want hip, if he gets elected, to do what they say. and on top of that, he didn't mention his name, but paul ryan would be his vice president. paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that...
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to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in november or january. >> but did you just say that mitt romney very specifically said one thing during his primary and something very different after the nomination? is that what you just said? >> what i said was, i think they're the same comments made to different audiences. that's an important distinctions. look, i'll be honest with you. i did not vote for mitt romney in the primary. mitt romney is not as conservative as i believe i would like our next president to believe. having said that, the mitt romney you saw on the st
to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in...
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it is not like we are in election season or anything. don't rush. you guys. it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> president obama woke up to this headline this morning in denver. as did the rest of us. and then guess who decided to go out and do something with this headline today? that is right. president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mit
it is not like we are in election season or anything. don't rush. you guys. it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> president obama woke up to this headline this morning in denver. as did the rest of us. and then guess who decided to go out and do something with this headline today? that is right. president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney...
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it comes a month before the election. most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's highlighting the fact it's below 8%. this number, 7.8. >> it certainly robs him of the ability to say in a campaign speech as he has since he launched his campaign, that the unemployment rate is above 8%. but as he said yesterday, most americans would agree with him on, you know, we can do better. the number still isn't good. i think everyone would agree looking at the numbers that came out yesterday that, you know, 100,000-plus is fine, but really want to create 200,000-plus. you want to see employment growth everywhere. you don't want to see h
it comes a month before the election. most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's...
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they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that will be a new record. >> and i think karen, we were talking about this during the break, ann romney going out there and saying i love you women. it's not all ann romney's job but such a simplistic strategy with women and then look at as ron brown stein reports a micro targeted strategy to speak to women on issues not just the 47% stuff but the reproductive stuff, speaks to women's paychecks, speaks to their pocketbooks. >> the thing we talk about, months and months ago that the republicans did not understa in terms of this language ability the war on women for women i
they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that...
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it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine moment on stage. romney lingered after the president left and parted with a triumphant wave. got a rousing response from relieved partisans. if romney's goal for the first debate was to get a second look from voters, he succeeded. he was energetic and funny. came across as knowledgeable. especially to those tuning in for the first time. a clear winner in a handful. responders pick him as the winner by 40 points. uncommitted voters polled by cbs news called romney the winner by a 2-1 margin. and 56% said the opinion of romney changed for the better after last fight. 13% said that about the president. ron allen sat down with a group of undecided voters and watched the debate in colorado just a few miles for the university of denver. here's what he found. >> how many of you were impressed by governor romney? how many of you saw something in gov
it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine moment on stage. romney lingered after the president left and parted with a triumphant wave. got a rousing response from relieved partisans. if romney's goal for the first debate was to get a second look from voters, he succeeded. he was energetic and funny. came across as knowledgeable. especially...
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one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good. i was in tampa for the last couple of days, went to three or four field offices in the obama campaign and saw them putting people out on the ground with clip boards going door to door. they figured out how to marry up the old field organizing campaign with the new online campaign to make it all kind of work seamlessly. >> i'll tell you, they're ipads, not clipboards anymore. >> old school. >> we're going new school with ipads and other stuff. what i've seen and amy jo i love your opinions. 140 million facebook users. facebook has people ta
one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good....
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we had an election in 2010 with senator michael bennett and his republican opponent, i think, that election came down to 15,000 vote es. you never know. you can't predict what's going to happen on election day. >> rick polasio, great to have you with us. thanks so much. i want to thank everyone at the governor's park tavern who were there for the msnbc presidential debate eve watch party. we're heading over there right now. we're looking forward to
we had an election in 2010 with senator michael bennett and his republican opponent, i think, that election came down to 15,000 vote es. you never know. you can't predict what's going to happen on election day. >> rick polasio, great to have you with us. thanks so much. i want to thank everyone at the governor's park tavern who were there for the msnbc presidential debate eve watch party. we're heading over there right now. we're looking forward to
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nothing, i'll tell you after the election. you're attacking romney for doing exactly what your candidate is doing. >> economy, gas prices, one thing striking in the debate over jobs, is some in conservative corners were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch had a tweet about unbelievable jobs numbers, the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate because they change the numbers. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained what's behind this analysis. >> i've reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars, to widgets. i have seen everybody with a, a third quarter equal to or weaker than the first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is not going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than -- any surge since 1983, a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> you know -- >> one of the most impor
nothing, i'll tell you after the election. you're attacking romney for doing exactly what your candidate is doing. >> economy, gas prices, one thing striking in the debate over jobs, is some in conservative corners were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch had a tweet about unbelievable jobs numbers, the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate because they change the numbers. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained what's behind this...
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law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisement arising out of this new law. pennsylvania in march passed this new law requiring voter i.d.s. people started going to get them and the state said, w
law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road...
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it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. [ speaking in foreign language ] press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general electi
it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there...
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but that is not what this election is about. this election is not relitigating the past of why i did or didn't go. >> the reason it's relevant, that you're going to be sending more men and women to get killed in some cases or take serious life-long wounds, and at the same time, when you had supported a war, another time you were for a war, you made sure other people did the fighting. >> we're trying to make sure this economy grows, but that we protect our interests here and abroad and that we want men and women who want to serve to serve. >> some of your answers requester quite adequate, others were not. thank you, michael steele, thank you, joan walsh. >>> when we return, let me finish with what i'll be looking for from the actual candidates in about an hour. you're watching "hardball," live from the university of denver, the first presidential debate. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car
but that is not what this election is about. this election is not relitigating the past of why i did or didn't go. >> the reason it's relevant, that you're going to be sending more men and women to get killed in some cases or take serious life-long wounds, and at the same time, when you had supported a war, another time you were for a war, you made sure other people did the fighting. >> we're trying to make sure this economy grows, but that we protect our interests here and abroad...
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is this going to affect the outcome in florida, which, you know, election to election, you never know. you never know in florida, do you? >> florida, florida, florida. >> right. >> that's right. and a inger are inis right. i think it does show kind of the amount of attention that both campaigns are putting on a key state in trying to work the margins in a race that could be razor-thin. and florida is vital for certainly for romney. there is other pathways for obama to win without florida. but if he wins florida, it makes it extremely difficult for romney to win overall. so i think that's where we're seeing the biggest battle on all types of fronts, including these voter registration laws. >> all right. matt vizer of the boston globe, and erin mcpike of real clear politics, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> now for a little trail dust where. you play -- that you may have missed from the campaign trail. yesterday president obama made a rain-soaked appearance in cleveland, ohio. he poked fun at governor romney's suggestion in wednesday's debate that he would defund pbs, the home of "s
is this going to affect the outcome in florida, which, you know, election to election, you never know. you never know in florida, do you? >> florida, florida, florida. >> right. >> that's right. and a inger are inis right. i think it does show kind of the amount of attention that both campaigns are putting on a key state in trying to work the margins in a race that could be razor-thin. and florida is vital for certainly for romney. there is other pathways for obama to win...
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we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was i
we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to...
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our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled it best. certainly people they want specifics, so governor romney, he needs to tell how with some detail his administration will be different from not just the obama administration, but from the president bush. with president obama, his challenge is to spell out to people. tell them how things are going to be different. in his second term than they were in his first term without acknowledging that the first term was necessarily bad, but people don't want same old same old. they want a vision of the future and we've come away to say the end comment at the debates tonight may be the most
our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled...
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law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if ohio folks don't move in the next days after the debate, time for romney folks to cash in ohio. >> you take the media hit for a couple of days there, but ohio, pennsylvania, they represent a type of voter or a group of voters would know romney needs. tries to make up ground on the auto bailouts saying that is not exactly what i meant at the time, i was really in line with what played out there, we know it was not but the type of voter or the group of voters in ohio that we have talked so much about, white males in particular, working class, middle class people, th
law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if...
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look, we've got elections next year in israel. we know what elections are. we know the competition. we know what that involves. this issue of iran and nuclear weapons has to unite all free people. it's not nothing to do with the election. >> can you characterize the relationship between mr. netanyahu and governor romney? are they casual friends? are they good friends? are they acquaintances? >> they've known each other for quite some time, even going back when they were young people. i've been in meetings where the two gentlemen have met and talked. i think it's a good working relationship, as he has a good working relationship with the president where you have mutual respect between the two leaders. under these very lines, the very close relationship between israel and the united states, such a close relationship, an intimate relationship. and every little disagreement, and you can't agree on everything. >> sure. >> gets blown out of proportion like there is some crisis there isn't. we have a good working relationship. and both sides are committed to prevent the iranians from getti
look, we've got elections next year in israel. we know what elections are. we know the competition. we know what that involves. this issue of iran and nuclear weapons has to unite all free people. it's not nothing to do with the election. >> can you characterize the relationship between mr. netanyahu and governor romney? are they casual friends? are they good friends? are they acquaintances? >> they've known each other for quite some time, even going back when they were young...
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controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income voters who they say might otherwise have been disenfranchised by that law. the raynes claim the law was common sense reform. according to the brennan center for justice which opposes voting law restrictions, 19 states have passed laws or executive actions since 2011 that impact voter turnout. of those, 14 are already in effect, including the one in pennsylvania. >>> now to business. home prices up 4.6% in august from a year ago. the largest year-over-year gain in six years. august marked the sixth consecutive month home prices rose in the united states. let's go to cnbc's jeff cutmore, live in london. >> good morning. you know how the saying goes, if there's a wealth effect in the housing market you get the trickle down. that's what we're talking about in this segment. we've seen this number coming out of core logic.
controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income voters who they say might otherwise have been disenfranchised by that law. the raynes claim the law was common sense reform. according to the brennan center for justice which opposes voting law restrictions, 19 states...
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the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning. we'll hear fromhe obama and romney campaigns on the jobs numbers. i'm sure a ton on the campaign trail. they're in the big three battleground states at some point shado
the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning...
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they know unless they get 35% minimum or so of the hispanic vote, they can't win the election. they're going to hope and pray that that 70% doesn't turn out because hispanic turnout is traditionally lower than the numbers indicate. if that percentage holds up, it makes it very, very difficult. in states like this one, in states like colorado, a swing state we're in, or nevada, or even north carolina and ohio, for the republicans to win. they are a minority of a minority demographically. that's what that number shows. >> we have nate silver's estimates today. he points out some fascinating thing. a very smart guy who writes for the new york times. he points out what's going on. he analyzed the polls coming in and going out of debates since 1969. he doesn't look at who won the bate. he looks at the polls before and after to see what happened in those debates. he found usually a small bounce coming out of the first debate for the challenger, not the incumbent. also noted no candidate as far behind as romney at this point has never won. the challenger tend to get a modest bump beca
they know unless they get 35% minimum or so of the hispanic vote, they can't win the election. they're going to hope and pray that that 70% doesn't turn out because hispanic turnout is traditionally lower than the numbers indicate. if that percentage holds up, it makes it very, very difficult. in states like this one, in states like colorado, a swing state we're in, or nevada, or even north carolina and ohio, for the republicans to win. they are a minority of a minority demographically. that's...
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than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many, many weeks, it was really quiet here. and it was only after they chose paul ryan as his vice presidential candidate that he started spending money here. so we're seeing advertising for both camps, so you're also seeing a president making a concerted effort. the president's been here twice in the last three weeks. i'm very confident that he's going to win. >> bill clinton, he's a big factor in the race, he campaigned for you in the recall electi election. >> well, i think he's a great asset and you can send bill clinton anywhere in this country and p
than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many,...
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this has become common place in the election. scott brown cited a study. what could be more -- businesses themselves are independent. it is essentially a right wing interest group that is out there to, you know, destroy democrats at every opportunity. i don't think i'm overstating things when i say that. it's like me getting up here saying the occupy wall street group came up with a study saying, you know. it's not an independent source. >> these folks just don't hate obama enough. if i was split from the u.s. chamber of commerce, it's the baby brother. >> they have been incredibly opposed to affordable care act and fought the obama truth. they thought the chamber of commerce was too soft. >> yes. >> on a more basic level, too, they oppose regulations of every kind. they oppose affirmative action. it's interesting. the corporations all filed. they support these things as necessary things for diverse and highly competent work force for the 21st century. it's radical. anytime anyone references that, it's a red flag. >> here is the irony. if you forget the st
this has become common place in the election. scott brown cited a study. what could be more -- businesses themselves are independent. it is essentially a right wing interest group that is out there to, you know, destroy democrats at every opportunity. i don't think i'm overstating things when i say that. it's like me getting up here saying the occupy wall street group came up with a study saying, you know. it's not an independent source. >> these folks just don't hate obama enough. if i...
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you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. 38 days until election day. four days until the first presidential debate. but these are the numbers that are really bearing down on the gop nominee. these are mitt romney's likability numbers in six key battleground stat states. topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week, when president obama was asked about the recent disruption and chaos and violence in the middle east, he said that these were merely bumps in the road. that casual assessment of shocking events reveals that the president really doesn't understand the gravity of the challenges that we face in the broader middle east. >> meanwhile, the obama campaign is out with a new ad, it takes aim at romney's experience at bain capital, spotlighting workers who said they lost their jobs because governor romney was more concerned about short-term profits than creating jobs. >> people need t
you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. 38 days until election day. four days until the first presidential debate. but these are the numbers that are really bearing down on the gop nominee. these are mitt romney's likability numbers in six key battleground stat states. topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week,...
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i love election season. if you like politics, if you like presidential politics, this is a huge night. we don't know what's going to happen but i would say, look, we know we're going to have lots and lots of people watching, very high stakes. and what happens tonight, as you point out, i think it is not just the 90 minutes in denver, it's what happens after that, how the debate is cast, how it's saved by voters, how it's received by folks who are already decided, how it's decided by folks who haven't decided yet some, we are into debate season. i could not be more excited. >> and it's pretty late for debate season. we are talking about october, not september. this is very little margin for error, very limb room for them to make up for any problems they may make. we will see the president tomorrow in denver at a rally, then he goes wisconsin, interestingly, and then mitt romney heads to virginia. so, he will be with paul ryan, the team together again in virginia. the importance of virginia, we have seen in th
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i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates. >> considering the debates, give me the smart pick, joe biden or paul ryan? who is the smart pick? >> you know, joe biden was a much better debater in 2008 than people remember. so i think if he can avoid gaffes, which is a pretty big "if" with the vp, he should be able to deliver, and paul ryan can be a little too much of a policy wonk. >> let me ask you this, do the vice presidential debates really matter? >> hardly ever, in fact, i can't think of one except the bob dole, remarking about the wars, world war i and ii, but by and large, i don't think they are much more than entertainment, although they're
i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates....
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before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess is that one is going to fix some of the anomalies in this report. and the unemployment rate could very well go back up above 8% in that report. because again, something's a little bit off about these numbers. but these are going to get smoothed out over time. oftentimes it takes a couple months before they recount, go over it. >> but you've been writing that the economy seems to be going president obama's way and the question is can mitt romney win without it turning his. if four or five days before the election we
before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess...
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elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say something about arizona. it's a place where you can feel and be miserable and depress, but we had an optimistic group of people we trained in arizona. we trained 19 people, most of whom were latinos. four ran for office for school board, state senate and congress. i think that really says something about the strength of our belief in what this country offers. >> it feels to me like you also thought the civil rights movement for african-americans took the opportunity of the franchise to run for office. if you don't like those laws, yo
elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say...
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he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the president next time because he just has to be aggressive, right? that's what he wasn't in this debate. i think he can easily meet or exceed expectations just by, you know, i don't know, five-hour energy or something before he goes out there. >> thank you very much. it's great to see you, eugene, susan, mark halperin, thank you, my friend. and if you noticed a little more pink than usual in last night's game between the cardinals and rams because october is breast cancer awareness month and game and rams it's because it's breast cancer warns month. they're doing their part with a campaign to promote prevention calmed a crucial catch. thanks to tanya schneider and other women in the nfl family. all along this month you see players, coaches, owners and referees wearing pink. this is to remind women 40 and old how important it is. get your screenings every year. c
he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the president next time because he just has to be aggressive, right? that's what he wasn't in this debate. i think he can easily meet or exceed expectations just by, you know, i don't know, five-hour energy or something before he goes out there. >> thank you very much. it's great to see...
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i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who called him on that? we went an hour and a half before i went -- a couple days ago he talked about the pre-existing coverage and now you're saying you have a program and i'm going to take nationally based on the principles of massachusetts. >> i'll you another example that infuriates me. this $716 billion medicare issue in ryan's plan. >> the number? >> yeah. romney tonight said the reason he thinks we ought to have a voucher system for medicare is government never does anything efficiently and the first thing he says about the reform is he's takin
i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who...